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Post by ella on Feb 23, 2015 10:14:13 GMT
After reading that EL is writing the screenplay for the sequel, I'm praying for it to be an even bigger train wreck.
Let's predict about the horribleness that she'll insist be in sequels.
I said it in the comments of Jenny's post, but I really think EL is going to write in Ana's headmates and their various activities. I imagine that the "subconsious" and the "inner goddess" will just show up randomly in various scenes with no explanation. Since EL is such a narcissist, she will think that all the viewers will know who they are, and them showing up in a scene won't need to be explained.
She will also insist that the endless list of "enemies" (pretty much everyone that isn't Ana and Christian) will all have to be part of the plot. But since they need to cram all those threats into a 2 hour time frame for each movie, it will be a jumbled mess of partial plots. One scene will be about Leela's stalking, and the following scene will be Hyde twirling his mustache, then a quick cut to Mrs. Robinson plotting to get Christian back.
The honeymoon segment will have an overly long scene of her riding around on the jet ski. Then a quick cut to him punishing her with hickies for having fun, but it will be tried to be played off as sexy. After the honeymoon, Hyde continues to sneer and Mrs. Robinson continues to plot, because everyone is jealous of their love. Then she finds out she's pregnant, Christian goes on a rampage, because that's totally how love works. The movie ends with the semi creepy popsicle scene, but since the writing is bad and the acting is subpar, it will be 100% more pedo-creeperific.
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Post by annie on Feb 24, 2015 11:12:16 GMT
I think she will have Ana narrating 90% of the movie via voice over. She can't seem to write unless she's describing every minute detail of every move Ana makes, and only if it's from Ana's perspective. So, she'll be completely dependent on Ana narrating the story because James doesn't understand the concept of natural, subtle exposition. And she won't learn how to write subtle exposition because she thinks she's already the world's most perfect and most amazing writer, so she won't need to learn about anything new in order to write a screenplay. She's already so perfect (in her mind) that the screenwriters should be taking notes from her.
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Post by rhiannon on Feb 24, 2015 11:25:18 GMT
Apparently there is a rumour now that Jamie Dornan won't be back because his wife doesn't want him to do it - I don't know if I believe that as it just makes his wife sound like some crazy jealous hag and she seems like an intelligent person to me - but I think it IS likely that because of EL James wanting to write the screenplay and their having to find a new director, the film will be held up and he will have commitments to The Fall or something else. (Though it wasn't made clear if he would come back to The Fall or not).
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Post by ella on Feb 24, 2015 12:13:45 GMT
Apparently there is a rumour now that Jamie Dornan won't be back because his wife doesn't want him to do it - I don't know if I believe that as it just makes his wife sound like some crazy jealous hag and she seems like an intelligent person to me - but I think it IS likely that because of EL James wanting to write the screenplay and their having to find a new director, the film will be held up and he will have commitments to The Fall or something else. (Though it wasn't made clear if he would come back to The Fall or not). I had heard that Dornan had an out clause in his contract where he can bow out if filming doesn't start by a certain date. Given how he's talked about Christian, saying that he would never treat a woman the way Christian does, I'm sure he won't be too sad if he can wiggle out of the contract. I know nothing about his wife, but it doesn't surprise me that it would get spun that it was her fault/idea that he not come back for the sequels. Seeing as how, um, dedicated, some of these fans are (doxxing critics), I actually feel bad for what type of things they will say to and about Dornan's wife.
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Post by rhiannon on Feb 24, 2015 13:10:51 GMT
Yeah, I have already seen some comments that I thought were pretty shitty saying things like JD ought to divorce his wife and get together with DJ, because they are apparently SO good together, etc, which is already pretty hurtful to his wife, so if he does walk out I can totally imagine them blaming it on her. I am sure she was totally aware what sort of film it would be and understood it was just acting.
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Post by rhiannon on Feb 24, 2015 22:11:30 GMT
Also, it looks like the EL James apologists have been telling each other about Jenny's review...!
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Post by Channy on Feb 25, 2015 0:46:11 GMT
More lip biting.
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Post by Jackie on Feb 25, 2015 5:11:59 GMT
It's pretty possible Dorian might be hoping he gets out of this contract. I read an article that talked about how both co-stars didn't really like the source material. Apparently DJ got whiplash during one of the sex scenes, and they overall didn't like the experience of making this movie. I imagine it's also really easy to feel "in the moment" filming sex scenes when E.L. and the director kept duke-ing it out.
I would love it if these movies turned into a train-wreck. I know it won't happen, but wouldn't it be beautiful if the levels of awful reached movies like "The Room" or "Birdemic"?
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Post by annie on Feb 25, 2015 7:36:05 GMT
Apparently there is a rumour now that Jamie Dornan won't be back because his wife doesn't want him to do it - I don't know if I believe that as it just makes his wife sound like some crazy jealous hag and she seems like an intelligent person to me - but I think it IS likely that because of EL James wanting to write the screenplay and their having to find a new director, the film will be held up and he will have commitments to The Fall or something else. (Though it wasn't made clear if he would come back to The Fall or not). You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Mrs. Dornan is unhappy with her husband playing the part because she doesn't like the material/character and/or the despicablity of the character. In interviews, Dornan really makes no secret of the fact that he doesn't like Christian and found it very difficult to get in to Christian's head. Dornan clearly holds back his disdain for the character and doesn't let loose, but it's clear that he does not like Christian and perhaps he doesn't even understand him. Hard to play a major role when you can't get in to the character's head and understand his/her motivations and thought processes. I just keep remembering the rumors about Heath Ledger finding the role of the Joker extremely difficult to play. Even before his death there were rumors that he was suffering from depression and anxiety mostly because he was having to live in this character's head every day at work. We all know that a job/career you hate can make you depressed, it can make you irritable, it can cause insomnia, it can cause you to lash out at those closest to you, and so much more. I know I certainly wasn't happy with who my husband became when he was working in a job he hated for a boss that he wanted to strangle daily. I can see all too clearly how having to play the role of Christian Grey and live in his head every day at work, along with having to beat a woman while she sobs uncontrollably and treat her in other horrid ways, would drive any sane man crazy in short order. I just can't help but wonder if Mrs. Dornan is worried for Jamie's mental health, or even doesn't like that after work he's irritable or upset, and that getting spun by the Grey-apologists as her being a jealous shrew that wants to control her husband. and yes, that is a hell of a lot of conjecture, but I see how utterly miserable Dornan looks in promo images and how in interviews he seems pretty miserable and seems to be holding back a lot, but as soon as the topic moves away from the movie and Christian Grey, he loosens up and seems to become more himself. It's hard to imagine that playing this role wouldn't affect his mood off-screen.
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Post by ella on Feb 25, 2015 12:08:11 GMT
Apparently there is a rumour now that Jamie Dornan won't be back because his wife doesn't want him to do it - I don't know if I believe that as it just makes his wife sound like some crazy jealous hag and she seems like an intelligent person to me - but I think it IS likely that because of EL James wanting to write the screenplay and their having to find a new director, the film will be held up and he will have commitments to The Fall or something else. (Though it wasn't made clear if he would come back to The Fall or not). You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Mrs. Dornan is unhappy with her husband playing the part because she doesn't like the material/character and/or the despicablity of the character. In interviews, Dornan really makes no secret of the fact that he doesn't like Christian and found it very difficult to get in to Christian's head. Dornan clearly holds back his disdain for the character and doesn't let loose, but it's clear that he does not like Christian and perhaps he doesn't even understand him. Hard to play a major role when you can't get in to the character's head and understand his/her motivations and thought processes. I just keep remembering the rumors about Heath Ledger finding the role of the Joker extremely difficult to play. Even before his death there were rumors that he was suffering from depression and anxiety mostly because he was having to live in this character's head every day at work. We all know that a job/career you hate can make you depressed, it can make you irritable, it can cause insomnia, it can cause you to lash out at those closest to you, and so much more. I know I certainly wasn't happy with who my husband became when he was working in a job he hated for a boss that he wanted to strangle daily. I can see all too clearly how having to play the role of Christian Grey and live in his head every day at work, along with having to beat a woman while she sobs uncontrollably and treat her in other horrid ways, would drive any sane man crazy in short order. I just can't help but wonder if Mrs. Dornan is worried for Jamie's mental health, or even doesn't like that after work he's irritable or upset, and that getting spun by the Grey-apologists as her being a jealous shrew that wants to control her husband. and yes, that is a hell of a lot of conjecture, but I see how utterly miserable Dornan looks in promo images and how in interviews he seems pretty miserable and seems to be holding back a lot, but as soon as the topic moves away from the movie and Christian Grey, he loosens up and seems to become more himself. It's hard to imagine that playing this role wouldn't affect his mood off-screen. That makes a lot of sense, and I wouldn't blame her one bit for not wanting Jamie to get in a bad state because this role. Both Jamie and Dakota seem like nice people, and at first, I judged them for taking the parts; but now I just feel bad for them, because not only was the content horrible, but the working conditions were also pretty stressful. I can only hope that the sequels stay in development hell if only for the sanity of the cast and crew.
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Post by gardengirl13 on Feb 25, 2015 17:42:47 GMT
Wow I haven't heard all this about his wife. That's a pretty crappy thing for people to say just because they're so in love with the books and movie!! And who cares if she doesn't want him to do it because of whatever reason they have. It's a personal thing, no one should judge her if she doesn't like the material. Sure if he liked it and she didn't then that's her problem, but he obviously feels the same way. It's kind of weird how he can get into the mindset of a killer, but not an abuser. Most people won't admit to that kind of thinking. I can see where he's coming from though. It's a more fun character because it's something you'd never really have to think about or deal with in life. You can be the bad guy! Where an abuser can be much closer to home. He might know people who were/are abused. Or even just knowing it's much more common and likely to see in real life over murder. Not even getting into the head space of how women think he's a romantic hero not the abuser Jamie sees he as like the rest of us! I couldn't imagine having to play this horrible abusive character that crazy women think of as an ideal man!
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Post by jennytrout on Mar 31, 2015 20:11:32 GMT
I am meanly bumping this thread up to remind everyone that 50 Shades Darker still hasn't been announced, still doesn't have a screenplay, still doesn't have a director, and last week the producer says he "doesn't know what's going on" with it.
*balloons* *confetti*
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Post by sortilegio on Apr 1, 2015 8:11:16 GMT
I am meanly bumping this thread up to remind everyone that 50 Shades Darker still hasn't been announced, still doesn't have a screenplay, still doesn't have a director, and last week the producer says he "doesn't know what's going on" with it. *balloons* *confetti* Juchuuuu
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Post by muskratthemink on Apr 1, 2015 8:44:40 GMT
I am meanly bumping this thread up to remind everyone that 50 Shades Darker still hasn't been announced, still doesn't have a screenplay, still doesn't have a director, and last week the producer says he "doesn't know what's going on" with it. *balloons* *confetti* Let's hope it stays this way. /After all, there's so much more stupid crap to make bad movies out of./ We really need a tag or something for sarcasm. :/
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Post by ella on Apr 1, 2015 9:49:12 GMT
I am meanly bumping this thread up to remind everyone that 50 Shades Darker still hasn't been announced, still doesn't have a screenplay, still doesn't have a director, and last week the producer says he "doesn't know what's going on" with it. *balloons* *confetti* In a just and right world, the sequel will be left in development hell (like the first one should have). Though, I think that the studio will find a way to make this movie happen, because it is, unfortunately, a money maker.
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