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Post by watergirl on May 27, 2015 18:15:34 GMT
James is Christian Grey.
It is often said that author's put themselves in their stories or write what they know. I know, from reading the comments, that I am not the first person to think that James is way too accurate about abusive relationships. That information had to be coming from somewhere. I am leaving an abusive marriage myself, and those recaps triggered me way too often, to the point where I started picturing my stbxh instead of an imaginary character.
Some have speculated that she may have been in an abusive relationship before.
But she dismissed those who tried to call her on the abusive nature of the book, to the point of calling them trolls. She is not a philanthropist and seems to be an all around horrible human being who is in no way deserving of such fame.
So she couldn't possibly be an abuse victim herself since she is so unempathetic to other victims.
She is the abuser. Female abusers aren't common but they are not non-existent either. There is only way way that book hit the nail on the head, it is her POV of relationships. This is what she thinks is normal.
It makes so much more sense now. That is why she defends her story so hard.
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Post by mrgbh on May 28, 2015 0:09:36 GMT
That makes way too much sense. It's scary.
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Post by muskratthemink on May 28, 2015 9:06:57 GMT
You're right, that makes way too much sense. It would not surprise me at all if she's as much like Christian as you're saying. It also wouldn't surprise me if her husband, or someone else under her control, was the inspiration for Ana.
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Post by ella on May 28, 2015 10:11:30 GMT
Wow, that's an interesting take on it. I never thought of Chedward being the self insert, but it does make sense. Ana spends the entire series holding up every single "red flag" that you see in a DV pamplet, and EL treats it as "Romance." The moral of the story is that if you love him enough you can fix him, and the intended story was Chedward's "healing." Given that Ana's loss of agency was ignored at best and encouraged at worse, does it make more suspect that Chedward is the James insert. That it isn't that James wants to be Ana and have her own Chedwardian perfect love, it's that she wants her own Ana to control, demean and beat and hide it under the guise of "kink."
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Post by mydogspa on Jun 2, 2015 15:26:25 GMT
James is Christian Grey. It is often said that author's put themselves in their stories or write what they know. I know, from reading the comments, that I am not the first person to think that James is way too accurate about abusive relationships. That information had to be coming from somewhere. I am leaving an abusive marriage myself, and those recaps triggered me way too often, to the point where I started picturing my stbxh instead of an imaginary character. Some have speculated that she may have been in an abusive relationship before. But she dismissed those who tried to call her on the abusive nature of the book, to the point of calling them trolls. She is not a philanthropist and seems to be an all around horrible human being who is in no way deserving of such fame. So she couldn't possibly be an abuse victim herself since she is so unempathetic to other victims. She is the abuser. Female abusers aren't common but they are not non-existent either. There is only way way that book hit the nail on the head, it is her POV of relationships. This is what she thinks is normal. It makes so much more sense now. That is why she defends her story so hard. Absolutely agree, based on her actions on the set. She was a control freak, her character is a control freak, so the character's actions had to come from somewhere, and being a newbie writer they came from what she knew as we all know she did very little research. Blatantly obvious to me. |
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Post by Jackiebay on Jun 26, 2015 3:21:20 GMT
I always thought James inserted herself as the nurse in the end of book 2 who comments on how great a couple A+C are. Seemed a lot more easter egg-y. O.O As for the theory in general, have you guys read Jenny's first chapter recap? She includes a really interesting link in that post that'll take you to a livejournal account of a previous Twilight writer and her interactions with James when she was thinking of publishing Master of the Universe. Sadly, I think the culprit is less James specifically and more our modern culture. Similar to how I don't isolate Taylor Swift's particular style of songs as an incubated case. There are a lot of women who think men are suave when they act like Christian Grey. There are women who believe feminism is just a group of jealous harpies who have no man. Anastasia Steele's character profile fits real people (both men and women, lets be honest). I've never hated on Stephenie Meyer for her flawed relationship advice mostly because, and this extends ultimately to James, if our culture already disagreed with it, that series would have never taken off. If we didn't want that brand of Edward affection, we wouldn't have bought into it, and Twilight would have never become the phenomenon that it has. Although I was will agree that it's a scary correlation between James and Grey's abuse. It's uncannily on point and frightening how seemingly unintended the entire arch was/is. But for all that is true, it needed an audience to believe in it first. And holy crap what an audience it turned out to be  |
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Post by Tanyaspncr on Mar 1, 2016 17:31:53 GMT
I have always thought that she was an abuser. I completely agree with your assessment of James. I have to say that I also agree with Jackiebay. Both excellent points. Growing up I always thought that it was so romantic to be consumed by your one true love. You live for each other and can't be apart. I think that is what Meyer went for, but James failed miserably at. Today, I now know that that kind of obsessive relationship is not healthy. I absolutely loved the Twilight Saga and I loathe Fifty Shades. The big differences for me is that Bella is NEVER once afraid of Edward or his lifestyle. Ana is constantly afraid of Christian and his lifestyle. Edward tries to tell Bella what to do, but she does what she wants anyway and he has to accept that. Christian tries and succeeds in telling Ana what to do throughout the series. Christian and Ana are not likable characters either and James did a terrible job writing this series. Rather, James' editors and publishing company did a terrible job before it went public.
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